ThorZain vs Minigun

emp is way too strong...



why is this highly rated... minigun played horribly. and it just shows how underused ghosts are.



emp isn't "way too strong". protoss just needs to learn how to spread their units, just like terran had to to deal with banelings.



"emp is way too strong" is a lame comment after watching this mismatch.

watch MC/thorzain or something like that and you'll see better use of feedback and more even battles.



Feedback requires infinitely more micro than EMP. The fact that you have to turn to MC, possibly the best protoss in the world, to find an example of protoss dealing with EMP well, just shows how difficult it is to deal with. EMP isn't the problem itself, it's cloak + EMP. Protoss's only mobile detection can be sniped at a range of 9 by fucking air units, with on-demand scans, anywhere on the map. If you couple this is mass marauders, which are strong and mobile, and defend and execute expo harass with ease, then terran just has too many easy advantages.



lol thorzain just played so much better than minigun so don't whine about imba



If protoss dont know how to deal with EMP then maybe they need some extra practice. In this much ThorZain played way better than Minigun so stop whining about imba every time one player is getting owned and this goes for all races, in the begenning terran was OP, then Zerg were unstoppable, then protoss deathball and now EMPs.
Stop trolling and get some practice



Agree with the Cheekyslut...specifically EMP=AOE, whereas with FB, the toss player has to pick the ghosts out of a pack of bio...not the easiest thing to do in the heat of battle



@Inks, yes EMP is way too strong. How can protoss spread their units on something that is instant and hard to see where its coming from since they are invis and long range? Bannelings you can see coming and are melee unit, and you can attack them while they are approaching, unlike EMPs. Theres no way to deal with EMP at the moment they are OP



@Cartel Try an observer? I'd give both my nuts for one of those... Last patch the one hope for Terran mech play against toss was shot, plus you get a damn good archon buff. If there's a weakest race right it'd be Terran.
Stop the whining, ppl, and enjoy watching Thor COMPLETELY outplay his opponent.



There's nothing that says that you EVER have to have your templars in one ball. The truth is that without EMP/Snipe there is nothing a bio-terran can do against a templar army of protoss. If the protoss spreads their templars it will require almost as much micro to emp all of them as it does to feedback the ghosts for the templars. And if this is true the protoss will still have guardian shields and force fields from the sentry's. The protoss ball should probably be spread out more without colossi. Check Day9 daily #317 for HuK using this against a bio-army of Syj.



Did I just hear idra LAUGH when he saw the huge EMPs in the end? That's pretty huge...



I wish my HT's had more health, were faster, could stealth, have an attack and storm could de-cloak other stealth units.



seeing a ball of any unit comp is noob. go pro & spread your units or die



lol....this would be a perfect example to get that observer speed :)



Shitty game



awesome game..thorzain shit on minigun and made him look really really bad. Minigun with the 1 hotekey syndrome, similar to downs.

If you want to be a progamer then you need to fuckin adapt.

He kept losing his observers over and over. Just simply outplayed. The longer the game went on the more obvious it became that thorzain is just faster w/ better multi-tasking and unit control. no IMBA here.



thorzain has one of the best micro decisions while engaging battles. his vikings and mmm ball movement is excellent opposed to colo and toss ball. cant agree on emp being imba.
ya idra giggled :)

wanna thank dj wheat idra incontrol painuser and all the guys involved in EG masters cup. good job, appreciated.



Good play, good cast, and great comments (except for the lamers who complain about IMBA)

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