I guess the balance whiners complaining Zerg is OP aren't going to be commenting much on this one.
Comment # 2 by Dartoss
Terran OP ;-)
Comment # 3 by re-patch
zerg op :)
Comment # 4 by Thorment
god op
Comment # 5 by Cyberblaster
ads op
Comment # 6 by FLiP
wow. god > unbalanced game
Comment # 7 by FLiP
as a terran player i cant even begin to explain how happy this series made me
Comment # 8 by aratosm
Zerg is op
Comment # 9 by H1111
op op
Comment # 10 by kirdie
well played by flash but I feel like Life didn't play as well as he usually does
Comment # 11 by Pentacosmic
@ comment #1:
You are right. Now I know exactly how to beat Zerg. I just need 400 APM (like Flash in game 2). Lo, behold, all you Zergs out there! No more roach-rushing me, no more mass-broodlording me. A new era has begun.
;)
Comment # 12 by misanthropope
there's this recurring theme: top 5 terran busts out a play style that the metagame isn't ready for, dominates everyone for a couple months. MKP, Puma, Taeja, maybe now Flash.
the most successful RTS player in history, playing with a significant metagame advantage, may not be the exactly the basis for a profitable study of game balance.
Comment # 13 by Sere
In the rematch the very next round it's 4-2 for life.
This was a very very entertaining match though, could clearly see Flash's bw style of play coming through
Comment # 14 by mrbarryobama
Life's style is very reliant pressuring terran in the mid game, keeping the tank count low and getting efficient fungals while there are few medivacs. Flash's great defense is what netted him the win! GG
Comment # 15 by dxdxdx
yeah, life's performance in this series was not his usual standard
game 1, he threw away most of his infestors, then he threw away most of his corruptors
game 2, his army was always separated, his infestors didnt have support for most of the engagements
flash played good games, but it was more life screwing up than flash pulling off a miracle >_>
Comment # 16 by pegasus696
seriously if you are going to have ad's can you make sure the normalisation (volume level) of the ad's are the same as the cast?
Comment # 17 by emil_fh
That 2nd game was just great! I do not agree that Life throw away the games. Sure his fungals was not perfect, but Flash had the best splitting I've seen in a long time, both with marines and tanks, negating the fungals. His Macro is one of a kind, Life could not keep up with his AMP imo.
Comment # 18 by leon
The commentators are highly biases, especially dAppollo,Flash eventhough made some mistake at the start of game 1 but he played flawlessly and have advantage over Life at any moment.
Comment # 19 by AxiomBlurr
I for one think SC2 WoL is balanced at the top echelons of the game - and here is my logic:
This year:
GSL5 top 8s: 3T/4Z/1P - Winner: ?
GSL4 top 8s: 3T/3Z/2P - Winner: Z
GSL3 top 8s: 2T/3Z/3P - Winner: P
GSL2 top 8s: 3T/0Z/5P - Winner: T
GSL1 top 8s: 3T/1Z/4P - Winner: Z
Overall : 14T/11Z/15P
Not bad hey...looks pretty even!
# Top 8s is used as a reference as opposed to any other section as it allows for a large enough sample pool to ensure extrapolation is not skewed.
Comment # 20 by henryinspace
Thanks for the good stats. I'm going to be lazy and not look but I think the top three after the queen buff would tell a different story. I would argue too that there are so few players at this level that counting from the round of eight just shows whose playing what race. You're right that it might be balanced at the top echelons but at the very top, no way. Terrans are working their asses off just to keep up.
Comment # 21 by Bournekilla
I love how a win of the best Terran player of all time (though admittedly not up to previous form), probably the best player of any race of all time, in a series which eventually ended in him losing (during extended series) in a tournament which ended in a ZvZ is somehow evidence of "balance" to zerg players. I guarantee you guys were the same ones complaining until blizzard basically made 40% of Terran units completely useless.
Let's just run some numbers, Snipe vs Fungal. 25 energy for 25 damage flat. That's like your Fungal just hit 3 Marines (actually less, since it's 30 damage per), tell me that's not a wasted spell. Anyone who thinks this game is balanced is more off their gord than people who thought the days of 10 reapers with speed coming out at the 4:00 mark was retardedly broken.
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I guess the balance whiners complaining Zerg is OP aren't going to be commenting much on this one.
Terran OP ;-)
zerg op :)
god op
ads op
wow. god > unbalanced game
as a terran player i cant even begin to explain how happy this series made me
Zerg is op
op op
well played by flash but I feel like Life didn't play as well as he usually does
@ comment #1:
You are right. Now I know exactly how to beat Zerg. I just need 400 APM (like Flash in game 2). Lo, behold, all you Zergs out there! No more roach-rushing me, no more mass-broodlording me. A new era has begun.
;)
there's this recurring theme: top 5 terran busts out a play style that the metagame isn't ready for, dominates everyone for a couple months. MKP, Puma, Taeja, maybe now Flash.
the most successful RTS player in history, playing with a significant metagame advantage, may not be the exactly the basis for a profitable study of game balance.
In the rematch the very next round it's 4-2 for life.
This was a very very entertaining match though, could clearly see Flash's bw style of play coming through
Life's style is very reliant pressuring terran in the mid game, keeping the tank count low and getting efficient fungals while there are few medivacs. Flash's great defense is what netted him the win! GG
yeah, life's performance in this series was not his usual standard
game 1, he threw away most of his infestors, then he threw away most of his corruptors
game 2, his army was always separated, his infestors didnt have support for most of the engagements
flash played good games, but it was more life screwing up than flash pulling off a miracle >_>
seriously if you are going to have ad's can you make sure the normalisation (volume level) of the ad's are the same as the cast?
That 2nd game was just great! I do not agree that Life throw away the games. Sure his fungals was not perfect, but Flash had the best splitting I've seen in a long time, both with marines and tanks, negating the fungals. His Macro is one of a kind, Life could not keep up with his AMP imo.
The commentators are highly biases, especially dAppollo,Flash eventhough made some mistake at the start of game 1 but he played flawlessly and have advantage over Life at any moment.
I for one think SC2 WoL is balanced at the top echelons of the game - and here is my logic:
This year:
GSL5 top 8s: 3T/4Z/1P - Winner: ?
GSL4 top 8s: 3T/3Z/2P - Winner: Z
GSL3 top 8s: 2T/3Z/3P - Winner: P
GSL2 top 8s: 3T/0Z/5P - Winner: T
GSL1 top 8s: 3T/1Z/4P - Winner: Z
Overall : 14T/11Z/15P
Not bad hey...looks pretty even!
# Top 8s is used as a reference as opposed to any other section as it allows for a large enough sample pool to ensure extrapolation is not skewed.
Thanks for the good stats. I'm going to be lazy and not look but I think the top three after the queen buff would tell a different story. I would argue too that there are so few players at this level that counting from the round of eight just shows whose playing what race. You're right that it might be balanced at the top echelons but at the very top, no way. Terrans are working their asses off just to keep up.
I love how a win of the best Terran player of all time (though admittedly not up to previous form), probably the best player of any race of all time, in a series which eventually ended in him losing (during extended series) in a tournament which ended in a ZvZ is somehow evidence of "balance" to zerg players. I guarantee you guys were the same ones complaining until blizzard basically made 40% of Terran units completely useless.
Let's just run some numbers, Snipe vs Fungal. 25 energy for 25 damage flat. That's like your Fungal just hit 3 Marines (actually less, since it's 30 damage per), tell me that's not a wasted spell. Anyone who thinks this game is balanced is more off their gord than people who thought the days of 10 reapers with speed coming out at the 4:00 mark was retardedly broken.
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