JINAIR vs KT Rolster

Hey Santah,

You can add banners on the top and to the right and increase income that way, but why is this Proleague match on top of the other one? This one happened before the other one, and guess what, the casters spoiled in the previous video what happened in here.

I've had this complaint for a long while now about not putting things up chronologically. Why am I even watching this stuff here if you end up putting the spoilers first?

I don't see any improvements being made on this website and there's only more ads and nag screens coming in. I am having a difficult time justifying why I would go premium to support sc2casts.

I know it sounds harsh but I've had this criticism for a while now and it's only getting worse.



Yeah, the spoilers are harsh. Are there any legit reasons? Why not add block when the effort put in seems very minimal? I get putting it out as you receive, however put in a small am out of time to get the order correct. That seems like a fair asking price.





@Xeneonic

I'm always careful and trying to put things in the right order.

Sometimes shit happens. Here my excuse it 2 fold:

a) they uploaded the series in the incorrect order, so I thought I was adding it as it should be

b) I'm on a vacation in a fairly remote place where the connection is a fucking joke (something between GPRS and Edge) and I didn't have time to check on Liquipedia for the correct order like I do most of the time

I don't understand where the passion in this comment is coming from. Surely this has happened before, but it was what - 6 months ago? How often are things not in order for you around here?

Cheers!



Apart from the griping about spoilers... This series was FANTASTIC!!!
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@santah

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to track your own comments so I can't give you an accurate number on how often it has happened. However it's been about every 3-4 weeks where things are spoiled, such as casters from proleague like GSR saying "This is what Pro1 used against Pro2 last week to beat him in GSL/Starleague", and that "Pro1 vs Pro2" match wasn't uploaded here yet.

I'm not sure if you as an admin easily see the posts made by members, but I assure you it happens a lot more often than once every 6 months and I have definitely mentioned this quite a few times in the last couple of months.

Still I thank you for responding and still trying to keep things chronological, it just gets to me when things are spoiled massively by the casters. Especially so in this case.



"However it's been about every 3-4 weeks where things are spoiled, such as casters from proleague like GSR saying "This is what Pro1 used against Pro2 last week to beat him in GSL/Starleague", and that "Pro1 vs Pro2" match wasn't uploaded here yet."

I can't do much about that unfortunately.

Professional VODs (from Proleague, SSL, GSL etc) are posted here within maximum a day after they're released on YouTube.

I cannot however control how long it takes them to upload the VODs to YouTube, nor can I monitor all VODs for in-video chatter between the commentators in order to delay posting VODs if they're spoiling a yet unreleased and not yet uploaded VOD from another tourney.

Hope that makes sense.



Yeah that does make sense. An alternative is to post the VODs in a chronological order, not in the time the VODs are released but in the time the tournaments happen:

1. GSL starts wednesday
2. Starleague starts thursday
3. Starleague releases VODs friday
4. GSL releases VODs saturday

You are now linking Starleague on saturday and GSL on sunday (1 day after vods are uploaded) but you could instead link the GSL on sunday and Starleague a day after (or straight after the GSL VODs). This would keep it spoiler free for sure.

You'd delay VODs quite a bit but its only noticable the first week, as this pattern would repeat every 7 days anyway. You'd watch VODs from a tournament once a week, so whether thats on monday or saturday is irrelevant.



Yea, but that will be a deal breaker for quite a lot of users (having the content delayed by that much).

Bigger deal breaker than having those spoilers every now and again, I believe.



The game you are talking about is the Dark vs Innovation game when Innovation was knocked out of Code A by Dark on June 10th. The games weren't up yet on sc2casts and they were spoiled by GTR the Proleague that weekend. It was very sad for me as well as Innovation is one of my favorite players. I've just learned to not watch Proleague unless I'm caught up on all the SSL/GSL matches first because SSL/GSL results are always spoiled in Proleague but never the other way around (Proleague results are very rarely spoiled in SSL/GSL).



The only way you cannot be spoiled, in my opinion, is to watch the games live or go directly to the source. Other solutions (as those hinted to above) will indeed be detrimental to other people who wish to watch VODs as they are released. There does not seem to be a perfect solution.

That said, thanks to Santah for keeping this place going for all these years. No regrets about buying those apps. Have a great holiday!



game2 is so satisfying



@santah
I think it's odd. You spread out a Starleague day over 3 days on sc2 casts with the 30 match challenger and have no issue with that...



Shit happens, whatever.

This series ruled.



best series ive seen in a while

@santah: keep up the good work



Amazing series.

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